“Alike in all parts touch”

In Donne’s “Sappho to Philaenis,” I was, similarly to Jae-Yeon, interested in the idea of the naturalism of people who look alike being sexually attracted to each other: “And, O, no more; the likeness being such, Why should they not alike in all parts touch?” (48-49). It has made me think of the common cliche that “opposites attract,” and how this phrase seems to naturalize heterosexuality It is interesting to me how science becomes invoked in both formulations. For example, lesbianism here seems natural because of an idea that ‘like attracts like’ in nature. At the same time, heterosexuality often is made normative because the idea of opposing forces in nature being drawn together, like magnets. I think this shows how the idea of ‘naturalism’ is just as constructed as conceptions of sexuality.

Private vs. Public in Act 1, Scene 3

In Act 1, Scene 3 when Cardinal, Ferdinand, and the Duchess are discussing the possibility of her remarrying, the two brothers use several arguments to try to talk the Duchess out of remarrying, though she sees right through them. At one moment, Ferdinand says to her: “Your darkest actions, nay your privatest thoughts, / Will come to light” (1.3.23-24). This reminded me of the scientia sexualis discussed by Foucault, which centers around the ritual of confessing ones sexual transgressions and desires, which first requires some level of secrecy. Ferdinand suggests a forced revealing of her choosing a new husband/sexual partner, not allowing her any chance at privacy in the court life. Not just her actions but her “privatest thoughts” will be revealed implying a sort of forced confession. I was interested in how this notion will develop throughout the rest of the play, for though the Duchess is married in secret, it certainly cannot remain private for long.

I found Scene 2 of Act 1 particularly interesting, if only to think about how this scene would play out on stage. Essentially there are two plays going on simultaneously: the play that we are watching, and the play that Delio and Antonio are watching. We look on and watch as Antonio and Delio look on and watch. We see not only characters entering and leaving the stage, but Antonio and Delio watching such characters enter and leave. In a sense, we are watching the action unfold through Antonio and Delio’s eyes – having spent the first Scene in their company, we are now party not only to their dialog, but also to their secrecy. This scene is in many ways similar to the garden scene in Twelfth Night, in which we (the audience) are able to voyeuristically peer in on private interactions taking place on the stage. The juxtapositions of various scenes within the scene are made clear only to us – in a sense the ultimate pleasure of the theater.

I was particularly struck by the repetition of the use of “poison” and “devil” throughout the first act. There seems to be an inherent fear of sin and how sin transports. The characters treat sin as a disease to be caught. More specifically I am interested in the many forms that sin and evil, that the text presumes, can occupy. They cite it as both a force, a spirit, a figure, and a physical embodiment. I assume that the  malleability of evil and sin was reinforced in order to impose fear, constrain freedoms and maintain  social order. In addition, the first act spends a lot of time focusing on the subject of the Duchess’ widowship. Ferdinand explicitly conveys this concern, while Antonio spend over three pages discussing it as well. I know that once a woman’s husband dies she is granted the freedom to remarry and own property (unsure about that one). I am interested in the lines that the male characters draw, to constrain the duchess’s  new found social and sexual flexibility.

Re: Reply to Raisa

Hi Raisa!

I was also struck by some moments that struck me as particularly Donnean. I noticed specifically the scene in which the Duchess proposes to Antonio. She claims that he has “left me heartless; mine is in your bosom; / I hope twill multiply love there” (1.3.152-3). I thought that this moment felt like Donne, and to some extent Philips, in placing two “hearts,” or souls, together in order to make something new and more grand, along with taking a common refrain (you have my heart) making it extreme  (I no longer have a heart). Further, the Duchess makes comments that their love can ignore a gross world: “Do not think of them. / All discord without this circumference / Is only to be pitied, and not feared” (1.3.170-2). Their love, like Donne’s, elevates them above the world outside of their domesticity. We know that this is a tragic play, I wonder how to take this language coming from a seemingly empowered woman, or if the play’s tragedy is a larger critique of Donnean themes?

When reading the first act of The Duchess of Malfi, I couldn’t help but notice on page 1434, when Bosola states that “He and his brother are like plum trees that grow crooked over standing pools….” how this seems super similar to how Donne uses metaphor, in the sense that it is essentially a long extended metaphor.

Also, I was curious how the “geometry” of the body (“man’s head lies at that man’s foot”) which Webster speaks of could connect to the “symmetry” of the body Donne explores in his “Sappho” poem.

Lyric Poetry in Traub

“Philips’s love poetry attempts to articulate a homoerotic subject through the fictions and temporalities of lyric expression, deploying the lyric voice to disrupt those relationships between ideology, causality, and sequence that, in the drama and prose narrative, propel the plot teleologically toward a marital conclusion.” (Traub, 251)

This passage from Traub’s essay really stuck out to me. It makes a very subtle, but strong claim about the power lyric poetry in the Renaissance. Although this course is disabusing me of the notion, I definitely do still fall into the trap of seeing Renaissance poetry/all pre-Modern poetry as  “staid”, more “formulaic”, more literally formal, etc. etc. But here Traub is ascribing lyric poetry the power to break down patterns of ideology and causality that other genres do not quite have — which makes it a rather revolutionary form.

Narcissism//Same-sex desire?

In Donne’s Sappho to Philaenis, I was struck by how he seems to imply a certain sort of narcissism by being attracted to the same sex. For example, a main argument used by the narrator is that the two are so alike (although separate beings), that “Why should they not alike in all parts touch?” This theme continues shortly after, with “Likeness begets such strange self-flattery, / That touching myself all seems done to thee.” Does Donne then see lesbianism as an extended form of self-worship? Or is it vice versa, that self-adoration is an inevitable byproduct of lusting after another woman? Either way, it seems to me that there is a connection… any ideas?

Phillips’s “Indebtedness”

Traub notes, “critics have also demonstrated Phillips’s indebtedness to a discourse of male amicitia, to the genre of pastoral, and to the conventions of heterosexual love poetry, particularly the metaphysical conceits of John Donne” (248-49). I read Phillips’s poems before Traub’s essay, and immediately noticed her adherence to the ideas of John Donne’s “The Ecstasy.” She speaks of “our twin souls in one shall grow” (49) and “That if each would resume their own…That each is in the union lost” (15, 18). While Traub claims that Phillips’s poetry exhibits chaste female-female friendship, I would question that claim given the similarities to Donne’s philosophical ideas and alternative lens of sexual climax.

re:Nathalie

I’m interested in Nathalie’s question about Phillips and innocence. I was struck by Traub’s note about changing ideals of heterosexual coupling as it relates to friendship: “Once friendship becomes a goal of marriage for men and women, female friendship begins to look a lot like companionate marriage. At the same time, when female-female love becomes, as I’ve argued, increasingly available as an imaginative social reality, the burden of women to choose to bond with men increases” (261). How do innocence and friendship interact, and what do chaste female friendships look like? Can there be chaste male-female friendships?